Quote Originally Posted by biggio View Post
My gym has a supp store. Tried M Sten and DMZ. Black and white bottle, both were liquids. I put on 10 pounds in 2 weeks and I went from 465 for 5 to 500 for 5 on bench. But the sides were BAD. Be careful with OTC prohormones, these were no joke.
even as bad as orals are, that's why i say it is still safer with better effects to use normal orals as opposed to ph. that of course is just my opinion and observation.