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Originally Posted by pgc640

Yeah I hear you bro GH is expensive as hell. In the past I have used cytomel with GH I used cytomel at 12.5 micrograms mcgs. The GH mixed with the cytomel just melts fat off you that's definitely true. But, yes you can use T3 without GH and not go into a catabolic state. Remember you're taking testosterone which is anti-catabolic and deca which is anti catabolic and using a low dose of cytomel if it's 25 micrograms. The only thing that it's going to do is Rev your metabolism it's not going to burn muscle. I mean that's my experience anyway. I can't speak for anybody else. Thing you could do is start with 12.5 and see how it works for you. I mean a lot of guys on these boards say anything under 25 is useless, I don't think that's true because I've had results and gotten results from 12.5 micrograms. after a few weeks at 12.5 you can increase it 2 twenty five MCG. You could even go as high as 50 but I wouldn't go higher than that. It also depends on your metabolism I don't know you so I don't know how fast your metabolism is. I have a very fast metabolism if yours is slower a higher dose of T3 is going to be less catabolic to you than it would be to me. Everybody is so different it's so hard to come up with a program that applies to everybody. Really what you have to do is experiment and learn your own body and what works for you. There's also a theory out there that a small amount of T3, taken during a bulking cycle, say like 12.5 mcgs, will increase nutrient synthesis because that's what T3 does. It takes all the nutrition you put in your body and uses it a lot more optimally. That's a controversial Theory though and I'm not sure if it really works I've never tried it myself I've known guys that have but again it's something up to you if you would want to throw it in during a bulking cycle. It's also good during a bulking cycle because it will keep you somewhat lean if your not eating entirely clean.

With enough gear and t3 at say 25-50mcg...
Use t3 alone with no hgh!! Dose of t3 depends on fat loss.
WITH
Test 600wk
Deca 500wk
Adrol 50mg a day u will become s beast I never knew. Run those 3 for 8 weeks...
U will have Abs and be BIGGER!!
t3 plays important role in shuttling food with gear and u don't need that much gear.
Any blast and u good...
I would run with blast for duration of blast and taper at end of blast on cruise...
12.5mcg t3 a start work up slower than ramp method.. 25-50mcg plenty for slower fat loss and nutrition shuttling with gear.

T3 gets oxygen to cells and food ready. The trick is get anabolic then once fat loss in noticed up cals and macros!!! Look out!!
19Nors in mix work best too because they lower t3 in body and this increases prolactin!!!! A cruise dose with good dose of 50mg anavar and 500wk primo even enough to keep anabolic, but most importantly enough food!!

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Originally Posted by Musclemechanic76

With enough gear and t3 at say 25-50mcg...
Use t3 alone with no hgh!! Dose of t3 depends on fat loss.
WITH
Test 600wk
Deca 500wk
Adrol 50mg a day u will become s beast I never knew. Run those 3 for 8 weeks...
U will have Abs and be BIGGER!!
t3 plays important role in shuttling food with gear and u don't need that much gear.
Any blast and u good...
I would run with blast for duration of blast and taper at end of blast on cruise...
12.5mcg t3 a start work up slower than ramp method.. 25-50mcg plenty for slower fat loss and nutrition shuttling with gear.

T3 gets oxygen to cells and food ready. The trick is get anabolic then once fat loss in noticed up cals and macros!!! Look out!!
19Nors in mix work best too because they lower t3 in body and this increases prolactin!!!! A cruise dose with good dose of 50mg anavar and 500wk primo even enough to keep anabolic, but most importantly enough food!!

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That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for being able to put it into words for me. But T3 definitely helps any cycle weather a cutting cycle for a contest or a cycle to put on muscle. Like you said T3 shuttles nutrients and allows them to work as optimally as possible. But, don't you think that on a bulking cycle you would want to keep the T3 at a lower dose say no more than 25 MCG? Another thing he's right about is it doesn't matter what you take if you're on the T3 and you're eating well you can look like a ripped beast on Anadrol and test. And that's while you are eating a ton of calories so, it's something I've really never tried but I've read a lot about and after reading these comments I'm thinking I may try it on my next muscle building program.

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Originally Posted by pgc640

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for being able to put it into words for me. But T3 definitely helps any cycle weather a cutting cycle for a contest or a cycle to put on muscle. Like you said T3 shuttles nutrients and allows them to work as optimally as possible. But, don't you think that on a bulking cycle you would want to keep the T3 at a lower dose say no more than 25 MCG? Another thing he's right about is it doesn't matter what you take if you're on the T3 and you're eating well you can look like a ripped beast on Anadrol and test. And that's while you are eating a ton of calories so, it's something I've really never tried but I've read a lot about and after reading these comments I'm thinking I may try it on my next muscle building program.

Gear and enough t3 not too much but enough... u will become a fat burning machine with a metabolism to have food nutrition shuttling available for gear to have at cells. Sluggish metabolism will be limited
The trick to grow beyond with gear is t3, hgh gear and enough food... too much food can put in unwanted pounds but t3 food macros can be consumed at higher rate and will be used up!!
Yes protien synthesis great but fasted rate and more macros is ticket...
This is especially true when growing while becoming lower in bf%.

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