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Originally Posted by Dzone

Good question! I would like to know how close is this to the original.

the only thing i see in there from the original formula is the ephedra but, half the stuff he had in it probably wasnt on the label. i always thought it was cool that he actually put on the label that it was banned by the ncaa and wadda or whatever the stupid acronym is

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Originally Posted by guns01

the only thing i see in there from the original formula is the ephedra but, half the stuff he had in it probably wasnt on the label. i always thought it was cool that he actually put on the label that it was banned by the ncaa and wadda or whatever the stupid acronym is

He was a very intelligent man. Ya and their may have been a few unlisted ingredients. Lol

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Originally Posted by thudgens96

He was a very intelligent man. Ya and their may have been a few unlisted ingredients. Lol

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dude was the original guru and good at it as well. i have both of his manuals from back in the day. the underground steroid handbook and bodyopus. some of his stuff is a bit outdated now but it still works. i always thought it was cool as hell that he tested the threshold of stuff on himself first haha.

TweetYa the taste of this new Ultimate Orange is really awesome. Its like an orange creamcicle.

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Originally Posted by Dzone

Ya the taste of this new Ultimate Orange is really awesome. Its like an orange creamcicle.

oh damn now you are really twisting my arm. i love orange creamscicles

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Originally Posted by biggio

My 1st preworkout MANY years ago, this stuff was awesome!!!! The only problem, once in a blue moon it would kill my stomach. Good to see it back.

Same here

Originally Posted by guns01

they even kept ephedra in it along with dmaa. hi tech loves to push the edge and poke a finger in the eye of the gov. almost makes me what to buy their products just for that fact

Hitech is still fighting to keep DMAA legal.

Originally Posted by Dzone

Whats the new version have in it? I doubt it has the original formula but I still might get me some

Edit-Looks to have the same stuff as original U.O.! Righteous!

Originally Posted by thudgens96

Now is this really the same ultimate orange that Dan duchaine formulated Sent from my SM-S975L using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by Dzone

Good question! I would like to know how close is this to the original.

Originally Posted by thudgens96

Dan duchaine original formula is to date still the best pre workout I have ever used

Yes is is.

Originally Posted by guns01

the only thing i see in there from the original formula is the ephedra but, half the stuff he had in it probably wasnt on the label. i always thought it was cool that he actually put on the label that it was banned by the ncaa and wadda or whatever the stupid acronym is

This is not the original formula. I am not sure but didn't orignal Dan Duchaine have ephedrine sulfate in in it?? This has ephedra in it.


Ephedra is still available for use in dietary supplements. Its just the usage of the alkaloids that are limited to medicinal purposes. Without going into the science, when the alkaloids are removed the left over extract can be used in fat burners. Ephedra is an effective stimulant and weight loss aid even with the removal of ephedrine.

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Originally Posted by joe1313

Same here



Hitech is still fighting to keep DMAA legal.









Yes is is.



This is not the original formula. I am not sure but didn't orignal Dan Duchaine have ephedrine sulfate in in it?? This has ephedra in it.


Ephedra is still available for use in dietary supplements. Its just the usage of the alkaloids that are limited to medicinal purposes. Without going into the science, when the alkaloids are removed the left over extract can be used in fat burners. Ephedra is an effective stimulant and weight loss aid even with the removal of ephedrine.

yeah i was aware of epdedra and all the other stuff with the banning. hell during the invasion and trips after we would just buy straight up ephedrine and make our own ripped fuel lol. only a handful of companies including hi tech still offer products with ephedra in them. sticking it to the man haha. if i remember correctly they were the first and only to keep putting out ephedra even after the ban took effect

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Originally Posted by guns01

the only thing i see in there from the original formula is the ephedra but, half the stuff he had in it probably wasnt on the label. i always thought it was cool that he actually put on the label that it was banned by the ncaa and wadda or whatever the stupid acronym is

The original Dan Duchaine version had Ephedra (with active alkaloids) and clen in it.

The new Hi Tech version, is awesome, but that "ephedra" is not the actual Ephedra that you think it is. It is merely the leaves and no alkaloids and it is a very mild ingredient overall. The 65mgs of dmaa for fact is the powerhouse in this version.

Im gonna grab a container next week myself.