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Originally Posted by jipped genes

you are right, var sends it way up but winny! LDL over 300 and HDL under 20. that is terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know what is even crazier than that. i have seen dex push hdl to single digits in under a month. these things are so crazy harsh. now the question i would ponder is this: i wonder if keeping your liver much healthier while running these things could have a better impact on your numbers. liver process cholesterol fats and pretty much everything else and orals tend to hammer the crap out of it. i wonder if you could lessen that with a good tudca and some other things?

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Originally Posted by guns01

you know what is even crazier than that. i have seen dex push hdl to single digits in under a month. these things are so crazy harsh. now the question i would ponder is this: i wonder if keeping your liver much healthier while running these things could have a better impact on your numbers. liver process cholesterol fats and pretty much everything else and orals tend to hammer the crap out of it. i wonder if you could lessen that with a good tudca and some other things?

good question brother, I run NAC and old school liv 52 but who knows, it could have been way worse.