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Originally Posted by animal87

get some of the sleep inducing peps like cjc and take it before bed. it will help some and you will get that little extra bit of gains too

I did not know this !!!! I do have peps and take them post workout which is at nite . I always like to hit up the gym around 9 PM . Afterwards I pin the peptides .
I'm gonna give the V Root/GABA Root/Melatonin more time. It does help put me to sleep. It's just staying asleep which is the dilemma .
And u guys are right, Mind Over Matter, if I believe I can sleep it'll happen !!!
Thanks bros

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Originally Posted by Torres

I did not know this !!!! I do have peps and take them post workout which is at nite . I always like to hit up the gym around 9 PM . Afterwards I pin the peptides .
I'm gonna give the V Root/GABA Root/Melatonin more time. It does help put me to sleep. It's just staying asleep which is the dilemma .
And u guys are right, Mind Over Matter, if I believe I can sleep it'll happen !!!
Thanks bros

slowly increase the dose of your supps that i suggested until you sleep all night man. i think i may have your problem figured out though. if i were a betting man, i would put the sole blame on you training late in the evening and getting amped up. i can almost guarantee you that is why you arent able to relax and go to sleep and the tren isnt the culprit haha.

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Originally Posted by guns01

slowly increase the dose of your supps that i suggested until you sleep all night man. i think i may have your problem figured out though. if i were a betting man, i would put the sole blame on you training late in the evening and getting amped up. i can almost guarantee you that is why you arent able to relax and go to sleep and the tren isnt the culprit haha.

U may be right Guns . I really don't remember havin this much of a prob Fallin and stayin asleep in the past . And I used to go to the gym alittle earlier than what I do now . But I am gonna increase the doses of the compounds I take , see if that doesn't help out !!!
Thanks brother for the guidance thru all this !!!