TweetSo check it bro, i was running 750 test e week & 75 Tren ace EOD and the sides were pretty bad. I got big but i had alot of water retention.

I came off for a couple months, now im on 500mg test e a week and tren ace 100mg EOD and wow im making alot more quality gains. Now the crazy strength isnt there but the sides are alot easier and i feel and look alot better. I think going low test and higher tren ace would work great. Make sure you have caber or prami on hand and youll want to take baby asprin everyday for the headaches.

I hated tren ace the first time but wow now that i know what to look for its amazing..

TweetJust wondering the lowest amount of tren a person can use and still get gains from it

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

Just wondering the lowest amount of tren a person can use and still get gains from it

25-50mg ed and you will see gains no prob

TweetI mean with tren e.
Don't like poking ed or eod

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

I mean with tren e.
Don't like poking ed or eod

300 man and cross the old fingers you have no issues. that stuff takes a minute to clear out lol.

TweetStill on low dose tren
No issues except BP just increase BP meds and all is good. Still making gains in gym

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

Still on low dose tren
No issues except BP just increase BP meds and all is good. Still making gains in gym

Great to hear bro.

TweetVery true, this happened to me. If you lift heavy you'll pay and it sucks being out of gym for something that could have been prevented. I should be gtg within the next month hopefully. Good luck with your cycle brother just take it easy first few wks.

Originally Posted by jandkk24

Ill go ahead and go with Roidboy on this one. I would hold off on tren until you have like 6 to 8 months of gym back under your belt. Your connective tissue is going to take a hit with the immediate strength and it will fuck you up if a tendon snaps or your shoulder tears. Do a moderate test cycle until you feel your ready for tren and then I would cycle it in at 300wk. When that feels like ok i have the sides under control and my connectives are good then up it to 600 maybe. Run tren e for 12 weeks and take a break from it. I use tren in every cycle as I do not get sides from it but the anxiety one is a bad one. You may even want to start with 200mg a week. No joke. I had a buddy do 2 weeks at 200mg and he went to the hospital for anxiety. Couldnt handle it. BP through the roof. Play it safe buddy. Your in it for the long haul with your only body. See what works and slowly go up every 2 weeks then you'll know where you need to start for a next cycle. Ive gone to 2g a week tren before solo. Acne and kidney got me so I stick with 400wk now and truthfully it feels the same to me with a 800 wk dose of test. Oh and get some Caber.

Tweetgreat tips in this thread. reading these threads are a good reminder of some of the careless mistakes we make by being impatient. ive been out of the loop for a few and am gonna take it slow as well, but im not going as bold as ole dw here.

TweetMy low dose tren cycle is coming to an end next week. The low dose let me concentrate on managing the sides. Body heat is more intense after a fatty meal. Anxiety can be managed with lavender. I did not experience loss of cardio. Loss of sleep can be managed with supps found on this forum.

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

My low dose tren cycle is coming to an end next week. The low dose let me concentrate on managing the sides. Body heat is more intense after a fatty meal. Anxiety can be managed with lavender. I did not experience loss of cardio. Loss of sleep can be managed with supps found on this forum.

Thanks for the update brother