Tweetwell if you want to get picky about that, phil is narrow in the clavicles and he is one of the few in the sport ever to have arms that vastly over power his shoulders and chest, maybe even traps. his chest is hollow also due to his narrow clavicles. both of those guys have flaws and their is no way to dispute it and if you went off of the way that it is supposed to be then you would have someone like dennis wolf taking the top spot. phil was off from last year and made minimum improvements and if you want to go off of conditioning and streamlining a better package then kai should get the nod. it is a opinion based sport but still we all know how it works out 99% of the time and it generates more interest this way.