Tweettheir are a number of pre workout supps that dont have any stims in them at all. idk how much energy they will give but they are out there. then again isnt that the reason most people take a pre workout to begin with? coffee would be my suggestion

TweetWhy is some kid worrying about anxiety? SMH

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Originally Posted by ZillaGrayBear

Why is some kid worrying about anxiety? SMH

This guy is 23, he just got dumped by his girlfriend and it has kicked his ass. Total devastation. I dont think he is sleeping much because of it and thats probably why his energy sucks. I dont think he needs energy supplements, he just needs to eat and sleep again.

Tweethe already has anxiety about taking it... Tell him to eat an orange before and maybe focus on something good

TweetI guess I just don't understand this younger generation. I understand the concept of anxiety and dealing with a broken heart but damn when I was 23 I was a father of 2 had to make sure that food was on the table and all the bills got paid. Was also going to College Full time on top of working a full time job 60 plus hours a week. I don't mean to come off sounding like a hard ass but sometime you got to put on your big boy britches and suck it up.

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Originally Posted by ZillaGrayBear

I guess I just don't understand this younger generation. I understand the concept of anxiety and dealing with a broken heart but damn when I was 23 I was a father of 2 had to make sure that food was on the table and all the bills got paid. Was also going to College Full time on top of working a full time job 60 plus hours a week. I don't mean to come off sounding like a hard ass but sometime you got to put on your big boy britches and suck it up.

Our generation created that generation. So many of "us' with our heads up our asses expecting kids to have their shit together.

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Originally Posted by ZillaGrayBear

I guess I just don't understand this younger generation. I understand the concept of anxiety and dealing with a broken heart but damn when I was 23 I was a father of 2 had to make sure that food was on the table and all the bills got paid. Was also going to College Full time on top of working a full time job 60 plus hours a week. I don't mean to come off sounding like a hard ass but sometime you got to put on your big boy britches and suck it up.

when you grow up and no one is a loser and a mindset that everyone is a winner and their are no set backs. this is the culture that is created. i do believe that some people have issues and need some meds for help but my sincere belief is that 99% of people want drugs so they dont have to deal with anything. they would rather walk around with numb faces drooling on themselves than to suffer a set back or a loss. not very many people left that thrive off of adversity and the drive to get better. why would you when you get a trophy for just showing up or you can go to the doc when feeling down and he will take really good care of you. smh, fucking pathetic. again i will point out 1 more time their are a few people that need it but the few outweigh the many that use it

Tweetkids are weak today they are spoiled don't know what to do in situations he needs to suck it up I blame the Parents and Society that caused these kids to be wimps.

TweetOne of my Son's called me not long ago and told me Thank you. I ask him why he was thanking me. He said for instilling a work ethic in me. I ask him where that came from? He said that he was having to work with a bunch of guys that was his age and they wouldn't show up for work or did things half assed and he had to go behind them and do their work correctly.

I told all of my children that if it is worth doing, do it right the first time. Now not all of my kids have been angels but they all know the value of work and taking care of themselves. Two have graduated college, one is going to tech school right now, one is operating a mulit million dollar crane for a construction company and the other is working to help those is hospice. So, the wife and I did out part. But we were parents and didn't try to be buddies with our children when they were growing up.

Yeah I am old school. Now we will not discuss the grand babies.... they are spoiled rotten.

TweetI dont think this kid is as bad as I must have made it sound LOL

TweetSometimes they just need to know that someone cares and will listen to them.

TweetLove has a way of fucking up a mans head. Sometimes anyway...I find it best when I can control my emotions and not let them get the best of me. It all comes down to discipline

TweetThat's a tough one. I think it depends on the individual and how severe their anxiety issue is. I have struggled with anxiety for many years but my pwo don't cause me anxiety. I feel the nervous energy they cause but they don't trigger anxiety for me. I think at least for me the anxiety is outside stimulus +thought driven. I could see how a person With severe anxiety especially with panic attacks may have to avoid pwo and stimulants. I've not used cialis as a pwo but I hear it works well and it can help lower No.
L-ARGinine supplement alone should be ok also.