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  • 2nd cycle Hows it look??

    Ready to start my next cycle,stats: 46 5'-11" 228 10-12 %bf Been worken out for 20+ yrs ,seriously the past 10
    1st cycle was:
    30mg dbol 1-4
    500 mg test en 1-12 (was bumped up slightly half way through)
    600 mg deca
    Post cycle -clomid/Tribestan/10mg dbol

    2nd cycle will be:
    30-40 mg dbol 1-4
    750mg test en 1-12 (would a frontload benefit with the Eq ?)
    400mg Eq 1-12
    post cycle would be the same with the addition of Hcg
    *** thinking about running fina 75-150mg eod 7-12 but dont know if I'd benefit from the strength gain or would nut shutdown hamper my recovery ability,Im thinking with the Hcg i shouldnt have to worry.Do things look ok, any adjustments? All coments and suggestions welcome! Thanks Bros
    I refuse to tip toe through life only to arrive safely at death.
    rrexxer@ziplip.com
    rrexxer@cyber-rights.net
    MassMonsterz.com

  • #2
    dont bump the test enan halfway through the cycle. if you are gonna bump it, frontload some.

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    • #3
      looks good but i'd bump eq to 600mg wk, and IMO also run the tren.

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      • #4
        i would go to 750ml on the test too soon bro. at the rate ure going ure gonna hit a gram in no time. i would run something like this

        1-12 test 600ml
        1-12 EQ 400ml
        1-4 dbol 40ml

        if ure gonna run fina id run it 75ml ed.

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        • #5
          Great cycle, Good luck
          M1
          "Just be happy with yourself. Be happy to be alive, be happy you are not over in Iraq, be happy you have your health".

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          • #6
            Looks good, that's what mine looks like. I frontloaded with enanthate and Eq as well but without the dbol. I would suggest running Fina longer. Hcg might increase estro production I would use clomid. How's the diet plan look like?

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            • #7
              Re: 2nd cycle Hows it look??

              Originally posted by rexxer
              Ready to start my next cycle,stats: 46 5'-11" 228 10-12 %bf Been worken out for 20+ yrs ,seriously the past 10
              1st cycle was:
              30mg dbol 1-4
              500 mg test en 1-12 (was bumped up slightly half way through)
              600 mg deca
              Post cycle -clomid/Tribestan/10mg dbol

              2nd cycle will be:
              30-40 mg dbol 1-4
              750mg test en 1-12 (would a frontload benefit with the Eq ?)
              400mg Eq 1-12
              post cycle would be the same with the addition of Hcg
              *** thinking about running fina 75-150mg eod 7-12 but dont know if I'd benefit from the strength gain or would nut shutdown hamper my recovery ability,Im thinking with the Hcg i shouldnt have to worry.Do things look ok, any adjustments? All coments and suggestions welcome! Thanks Bros

              I would do:

              40mg D-bol 1-4
              750mg test 1-12
              600mg(min)Eq-1-12

              As far as your post cycle, well I'll leave it up to the rest here on the board. I've never done any.

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              • #8
                1) 750mg is waaayy to high for a second cycle. There is absolutely no reason to run this much test.

                2) I disagree with the suggestions to bump the EQ 600mg. This is only your second cycle, keep it at 400mg like you planned.

                3) Fina is not needed at this stage of the game, but it is always a good addition. If you are going to run it, run 75mg ED or EOD.

                Cycle looks good, except too much test..I would say something like this would be better:

                Weeks 1-4: 30mg Dbol ED
                Weeks 1-12: 500-600mg Test
                Weeks 1-12: 400mg EQ
                Weeks 7-12: 75mg Fina ED

                It would still be a great cycle without the fina.

                ~Fluid
                x|Fluid|x is presenting REAL opinions and DOES encourage and condone the use of steroids or other illegal/legal substances that may be used in an illegal manner.


                xFluiDx@ziplip.com
                fluid@fitnessgeared.com

                Minister of Controlled Substances for the KINGDOM of KANADA.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
                  1) 750mg is waaayy to high for a second cycle. There is absolutely no reason to run this much test.

                  2) I disagree with the suggestions to bump the EQ 600mg. This is only your second cycle, keep it at 400mg like you planned.

                  3) Fina is not needed at this stage of the game, but it is always a good addition. If you are going to run it, run 75mg ED or EOD.

                  Cycle looks good, except too much test..I would say something like this would be better:

                  Weeks 1-4: 30mg Dbol ED
                  Weeks 1-12: 500-600mg Test
                  Weeks 1-12: 400mg EQ
                  Weeks 7-12: 75mg Fina ED

                  It would still be a great cycle without the fina.

                  ~Fluid
                  i agree with everything you said. We are too often on this more is better kick. If we start to high, where do we have to go?

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                  • #10
                    My second cycle was this,


                    40mgs Dbol Weeks 1-4
                    500mgs Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10
                    400mgs EQ Weeks 1-10

                    Clomid post cycle and Nolvadex on hand

                    I was more than happy with the results... Fluid had some great points in his reply...
                    "A pump is like cumming"
                    -Arnold Schwarzenegger-

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                    • #11
                      Great Feedback and ideas from all of you I have posted at other boards that I visit and will be baseing my decission on the collection of ideas,Fluid,,,,so far Im leaning towards your suggestion on lowering the test so I have some room to work down the road,,,,,,,,THANKS to all of you ,I value your opinions
                      I refuse to tip toe through life only to arrive safely at death.
                      rrexxer@ziplip.com
                      rrexxer@cyber-rights.net
                      MassMonsterz.com

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
                        1) 750mg is waaayy to high for a second cycle. There is absolutely no reason to run this much test.

                        2) I disagree with the suggestions to bump the EQ 600mg. This is only your second cycle, keep it at 400mg like you planned.

                        3) Fina is not needed at this stage of the game, but it is always a good addition. If you are going to run it, run 75mg ED or EOD.

                        Cycle looks good, except too much test..I would say something like this would be better:

                        Weeks 1-4: 30mg Dbol ED
                        Weeks 1-12: 500-600mg Test
                        Weeks 1-12: 400mg EQ
                        Weeks 7-12: 75mg Fina ED

                        It would still be a great cycle without the fina.

                        ~Fluid
                        1) how do you know 750 is too much for him. Did you test his SHBG and his T levels on his last cycle? Do you know him personally enough to say its too mcuh.

                        2)Same as #1

                        3) Same as #1


                        I dont like it when people say somethign is too much solely out of their own opinion. Did you bother to read his STATS? HEs not a newbie in the game.


                        Bro, leave your cycle just like it is. Frontload the EQ and Test the first 2 wks if you like.

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                        • #13
                          I respectfully disagree. I did read his stats, and I dont think anyone needs 750mg for a second cycle.

                          No flame intended, but I think its rather irresponsible to reccomend that much drugs to someone for a second cycle.

                          Im speaking from experience, obviously I do not know his personal test levels and such, but from experience, the average user does not need that many drugs. I suggest that he start low, and he does not see the results he wants, then to up the dose..
                          x|Fluid|x is presenting REAL opinions and DOES encourage and condone the use of steroids or other illegal/legal substances that may be used in an illegal manner.


                          xFluiDx@ziplip.com
                          fluid@fitnessgeared.com

                          Minister of Controlled Substances for the KINGDOM of KANADA.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
                            I respectfully disagree. I did read his stats, and I dont think anyone needs 750mg for a second cycle.

                            No flame intended, but I think its rather irresponsible to reccomend that much drugs to someone for a second cycle.

                            Im speaking from experience, obviously I do not know his personal test levels and such, but from experience, the average user does not need that many drugs. I suggest that he start low, and he does not see the results he wants, then to up the dose..
                            again, i agree with you. for a second cycle, no reason to use more than 500mg. We all know we increase our dosages, so why not try to use less to achieve resultz, then when it stopz, bump it

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                            • #15
                              How the hell do you know it too much for a second cycle?

                              Did you bother to ask how he reacted at 500? His first cycle he even bumped it from 500 to higher...did you see that part?

                              750 is far from too high for a seond cycle. Making a statement such as 750 is waaay to high for a second cycle has no backing and should not be made. Especially when you ddint even bother to ask the above questoins.

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