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      Ok in Chicago a 17yr kid was stealing a car that a Fireman left running.The kid got in it and was about to pull away when the Captain fireman stepped in front of the Jeep shouted get out of the car the kid then drove around him to get away never hit the guy and the fireman pulled out his gun and shot the kid in the chest and he died. Is that reason to use a gun. The Fireman did have a conceal and Carry license . Imo when is it ok to shoot someone when your own self is not at harm,Take the car let the insirance cover it,It might be found the kid might of got caught later. But to shoot the kid. lets hear what everyone has to say
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      Fuck the kid deserves to die! He’s committing grand theft larceny! That’s still a very heinous crime! Courts still throw the book at it.

      That being said I agree with you Fuzo I’d have let it go or followed it. If there was any fear for life you’d have the right become a car is a weapon just as a gun.

      Personally this is weeding out the idiots. I’m fine with the shooting. Who cares he is 17. So it’s ok if he was 30?

      Like I said I wouldn’t have done it.


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      i see your point fuzo and some what agree with it.. I also have a ccw. I don't know if I would have pulled my guy and took the kids life. but I also agree with 6P6 To me some where in society we have to take our society back and stop letting the criminals run things..

      a year or so ago a local deputy pulled over a black man and the deputy was on his back and the male was full mounted him and was working the deputy over. the things that pisses me off was there was about 10 people there and no helped this deputy they all got the phones out the record it. the only person to do anything was another black male who had a ccw walked up and shot the guy twice in the chest and killed him. I personal know the black male who did the shooting. to me that took some balls and walk up and shoot someone..i just cant believe over 10 people just watched and none could not help him but when you need help you call them but he needed help and we just want to record it..

      the video is on you tube if you want to know about it let pm me and I will send the link.. its a sad state we live in when the criminals have more rights then those who obey the law..

      my opinion you commit a felony you lost your rights. which I know is kinda of weird to say on this board bc everyone on here take gear which is a felony but you guys know what mean.. hell years ago in my state the law was you couldn't defend your home. if someone broke into your home you were supposed to flee. that law has been changed but screw that you break into my house in the middle of the night lead flys...

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      If you are going to steal a truck like that, then you assume the risk that it could cost you your life. Same as if you were breaking into someones house. You are taking the chance that you will be killed while committing the crime. That is part of the adrenaline rush and the thrill these criminals get when they are doing evil shit. They know they are risking their lives and are willing to do it anyway.

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      Should have shot a tire or 2 out instead.
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      Yikes!
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      Ok this will be my last post on this but is everyone ok when there son and daughter is 17 and they steal a car and get shot and die from stealing a car.We may be the best parents and brought our kids up great but if they choose to go a different route everyone is ok and say its justified because they steal a car. This made the chicago news,the kid didnt use the car as a weapon just got it and was going to steal it to probably get home. I couldn't shoot a kid or man if they were in my car and stealing it. I'll get a new car from Insurance.
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      It doesn't always workout to just get a new vehicle on insurance. As far as is it right? I don't think its wrong but his conscience will have to sort that out.
      I will say i would have shot the kid. Its about the society and you should assume you will be shot for it. I would be devastated if it was one of my kids. Hell i was shot at many, many times by luck never shot. My car is an extension of my house, my safe place. Really i don't have a ccp because i know I would use my gun.

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      in high school my buddy tried to steal a guy bike. the guy shot and killed him my other friend with him went to jail for murder . the guy who didi the shooting ( the victim ) walked away.

      is what it its.. everybody has choices like driving drunk or playing with fire arms, got to be prepared to pay the reaper with your choices.. that day a lot of bad choices

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      idk man, that's a tough one. you have to take into account the area you live in and how high the rate of crime and shootings are. is it right or wrong? that's what the court system is for but on the other hand with how many people get killed by the bad guys is so high that the guy could have legit felt for his life. even if the kid was swerving to miss him. the heat of the moment aspect and the fear could have made him commit to the engagement. moral of the story is, dont steal or enter other people's property without the knowledge that you could lose your life. the gang bangers know that if they go into other people's areas they can lose their life. same applies to messing around in other people's stuff.
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      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      idk man, that's a tough one. you have to take into account the area you live in and how high the rate of crime and shootings are. is it right or wrong? that's what the court system is for but on the other hand with how many people get killed by the bad guys is so high that the guy could have legit felt for his life. even if the kid was swerving to miss him. the heat of the moment aspect and the fear could have made him commit to the engagement. moral of the story is, dont steal or enter other people's property without the knowledge that you could lose your life. the gang bangers know that if they go into other people's areas they can lose their life. same applies to messing around in other people's stuff.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BABY1 View Post
      Should have shot a tire or 2 out instead.
      I disagree. if you pull a gun, you shoot a person. shoot a tire and the kid smashes into a church bus...........well lets say that would be even worse and it would be your fault. When people say shoot them in the leg rather than the chest, guns are for deadly force, it is not the right tool and shooting a tire would not stop him. you can drive on 2 flats.

      first off the kid should not have tried to steal a car. He is a piece of shit. the fireman should not have shot him unless he felt threatened or was protecting another person. He will be persecuted regardless. Really depends on the races of the two involved the kid and the fireman as to what will happen. Hate saying that but it is true.

      If both were the same race not much will be said.

      on the flip side, don;t leave your car running, you are asking for it to get ganked. I am sure the young man was an upstanding member of society who just made one little mistake and was going to go to college and such.
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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      Ok this will be my last post on this but is everyone ok when there son and daughter is 17 and they steal a car and get shot and die from stealing a car.We may be the best parents and brought our kids up great but if they choose to go a different route everyone is ok and say its justified because they steal a car. This made the chicago news,the kid didnt use the car as a weapon just got it and was going to steal it to probably get home. I couldn't shoot a kid or man if they were in my car and stealing it. I'll get a new car from Insurance.
      That’s is where you are wrong. A vehicle is a two ton weapon. More deadly then any firearm. I’m not just saying this! This is supported by case law across the country!

      Stop saying anything about the age! It doesn’t matter the crime is what mattered! 17 or 80 it doesn’t matter...yes it’s sad a young life is gone but HE did that no one else did. He did it. We have to stop allowing people to not be responsible for their actions.

      Look it up, what I say is 100% supported by courts across the country. A vehicle is a weapon. That kid could have killed numerous people.


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      Quote Originally Posted by BABY1 View Post
      Should have shot a tire or 2 out instead.
      Sorry baby1 this isn’t Hollywood. There are certain weapons and things to puncture a tire but randomly shooting a tire with you hand gun usually results in a ricocheted bullet. If you have a ccw or taken any firearm class they will tell you 100% DO NOT TRY THIS.

      Food for thought you shoot the tire, bullet bounces and kills someone else. Now you have that mess. When you pull that trigger you are responsible for it no matter what!


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      Quote Originally Posted by 6p6 View Post
      Sorry baby1 this isn’t Hollywood. There are certain weapons and things to puncture a tire but randomly shooting a tire with you hand gun usually results in a ricocheted bullet. If you have a ccw or taken any firearm class they will tell you 100% DO NOT TRY THIS.

      Food for thought you shoot the tire, bullet bounces and kills someone else. Now you have that mess. When you pull that trigger you are responsible for it no matter what!




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