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Originally Posted by FREAKSHOW

I used 2ml BW to reconstitute it. I draw out to the 10iu mark on the slin pin (50mcg) and put half in each head of the luscle im working, for example today was legs so i did half in each quad. Im also on 150mg test cyp a week (TRT) and thats it. Keto diet.

Yes, this is the proven protocol, for how long you plan to run it ?

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Originally Posted by Sciroxx

Yes, this is the proven protocol, for how long you plan to run it ?

ive read some do a month, some do 2 months. since des doesnt build a tolerance id feel safe running it a month to 6 weeks, then take 2 weeks off and do again. just repeat 4-6 on 2 off. Your thoughts?

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Originally Posted by FREAKSHOW

ive read some do a month, some do 2 months. since des doesnt build a tolerance id feel safe running it a month to 6 weeks, then take 2 weeks off and do again. just repeat 4-6 on 2 off. Your thoughts?

Yes, the DES may be ran for a longer period, as it has a local (autocrine) effect there is less down regulation of receptors and resilience of the different metabolic systems of the body

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TweetPlease correct me if I'm wrong: LR# is a vial a week with injections once per day. Systemic so sight injection is not necessary. IM preferred method or sub-q is just as good? Legnth of use 5 weeks then take a break? Best used with gh?
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TweetI tried DES in the hamstrings today... WOW Talk about a pump. My hammies were toasted. I use a slower rep tempo focusing on a good squeeze and a slow eccentric. This will totally fry the muscle especially with DES in there.

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Originally Posted by SD1959

Please correct me if I'm wrong: LR# is a vial a week with injections once per day. Systemic so sight injection is not necessary. IM preferred method or sub-q is just as good? Legnth of use 5 weeks then take a break? Best used with gh?
Thank you,
Sd

Im using IGF DES. I use IM not SubQ but i assume SubQ is fine. I prefer IM though. 1 bottle of des will last about 20 days i do believe if taken daily, i take 6 days a week.

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Originally Posted by FREAKSHOW

Im using IGF DES. I use IM not SubQ but i assume SubQ is fine. I prefer IM though. 1 bottle of des will last about 20 days i do believe if taken daily, i take 6 days a week.

I've used DES in the past but the AA f-in burns. Using an 18g railroad spike was less uncomfortable! Never used LR3 so that's why i'm leaning that way but obviously want to do it right.

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Originally Posted by SD1959

I've used DES in the past but the AA f-in burns. Using an 18g railroad spike was less uncomfortable! Never used LR3 so that's why i'm leaning that way but obviously want to do it right.

I didnt use AA. I just used BW and it does just fine.

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Originally Posted by FREAKSHOW

I didnt use AA. I just used BW and it does just fine.

you are only supposedly getting about 1/4 to 1/2 of the compound or somewhere in those ranges without the aa. some say it doesnt work at all without the aa. dont know the science behind it but that's what all the instructions i have seen and read

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Originally Posted by SD1959

I've used DES in the past but the AA f-in burns. Using an 18g railroad spike was less uncomfortable! Never used LR3 so that's why i'm leaning that way but obviously want to do it right.

you cut the aa with a little ba water man. you draw your igf first and then add 10-20-or even 30iu of ba water. that cuts the burn. as for lr3, it is super fast in and out but very effective as well. great product and a lot of people will rotate back and forth between lr3 and des so they dont have to come off